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No Deal – What’s the Problem?

I have given my views on the Brexit impasse here. What now perplexes me is why a “no-deal” Brexit is declared by so many to be unthinkable. Catastrophe is the outcome for our country is what so many say. And yet I don’t know why this is the conclusion of so many. Why would a no-deal Brexit be such a bad idea?

I have lived through 1st January 2000 when collapse of our computer system was meant to lead to all kinds of catastrophe – and it didn’t. I have lived through June 24th 2016 when the result of the referendum declaring that the majority of the voting British public wanted to leave the European Union (EU) was supposed to lead to catastrophe – and it did not. So, I am perhaps a bit cynical about these prophecies of doom.

At the moment the country seems to be operating with a degree of paralysis. Issues of normal government such as health and education, seem largely to have been left to just go on as before with little governmental direction. Everyone is waiting for an outcome to Brexit. No deal was done by the scheduled date for leaving the EU on 29th March 2019 so why didn’t it just happen without a deal? At least everyone could then move on. Trade deals and agreements could be sorted out. I would expect, although I may be completely wrong, that there were be a short period of hiatus and then all would settle down.

Now, if I could show my hand, I am probably a mild remainer. However, the vote was taken and that said we should leave. As I mentioned in my aforementioned post here, I think a further referendum would be a bad idea.

Also I am what i would describe as an “unconvinced non-voter”. I set out my position on that here. However, it is a position I hold quite hesitatingly. I am strongly thinking though, of voting for the Brexit party in the European Parliamentary Elections on May 23rd because they seems to be a one policy party and that policy is to leave the EU. And that policy implements the referendum.

In the end that will, no doubt, mean a no-deal Brexit because it seems impossible for the British parliament to agree anything between themselves. But what’s the problem with that? Any answers would be appreciated.


Here are a few musings on Brexit:

  • If the EU gave the UK a really good deal then everyone will want out. And so there would soon be Italexit and Spexit. To expect the EU to be fawningly generous to the UK is crazy.
  • The EU did not kick the UK out; the UK decided to leave. The EU could just say “go then”.
  • The impression I get of Parliament is that so many seem to have been criticizing Mrs May’s (presumably now deceased) agreement as if it is an inadequate policy statement. It is not that; it is a negotiated agreement. And dare I say a negotiated agreement where the other side (the EU) have the stronger position. Have these MP’s never negotiated anything?
  • The whole process seems to be imbued with a “Rule Brittania” spirit. After all “we shall never be slaves” and we “rule the waves” and therefore the EU should just kowtow to us. The arrogance displayed is inappropriate and unseemly.
  • Why does our system of government always default to the adversarial approach? Given that the nation had democratically voted to leave the EU surely it would have been most sensible to set up the process of leaving the EU on a consensual basis with all parties involved. Parliament had a responsibility to deliver on the will of the British people. They seem to be miserably failing on that at the moment.
  • Don’t the people in Parliament know that businesses are suffering because of the uncertainty regarding Brexit.
  • I fear that the view of parliamentary democracy in this country is being diminished by this whole saga. Reflective of this is one friend’s meme asserting that “I seriously believe that our politicians of all shades are (politely) “incapable of organising a drinks reception in a vineyard?””
  • The prospect of a second referendum fills me with foreboding. If the vote went in favour of remaining in the EU some degree of civil unrest would ensue, I fear.
  • And by the way I, and possibly many other of my compatriots, are still somewhat disappointed by England losing to Croatia on 11th July last year. Can’t we have the game replayed? Demands for a second referendum seem to be a lot about sour grapes concerning not winning first time around.

So we commit all to the Lord. Praise be to You, Lord, that You are not confused by it all.

And amidst it all there are lessons for us as we seek to deal with issues in our own spheres, including churches:

  • Fight pride. In all things act with humility.
  • Deal with reality and not fantasy.
  • Leaders, including church elders, should work for consensus among themselves in moving forward om issues. This should be the default position in their operations together.
  • Always seek to understand the position of those on the other side.

Europe Break-Up?

Last Saturday, March 25th, marked the sixtieth anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Rome. Through this treaty six nations bound themselves together in economic co-operation and formed “The Common Market”. That entity subsequently morphed into,what is now the European Union (EU).

A fortnight ago today I visited the Imperial War Museum with my two youngest sons. We went through the First Word War exhibition. it was gruesome, sobering and left me somewhat sombre. One of the things that struck me about it, was how independent nations states. fell, like a pack of cards, into alliances which led to a grotesque period of warfare with terrible suffering.

What alarms me about Brexit is that it is a move away from a group of states in union together towards independent nation states who are in it for themselves. “Make Britain great again” and all that. The EU, with all of its failings, binds nations together.

I remember my Uncle Arthur’s argument, at around the time of the referendum in 1975, that one of the main reasons for joining The Common Market was that it would counteract any tendencies towards countries warring together.

There does seem to be a groundswell of desire around Europe to move away from the EU. This leaves me concerned given what happened to create the First World War.


EU Referendum; The Issues.

You may not have been persuaded by my post of yesterday about not voting. So if you’re set on voting I now want to address the issues to consider in voting. One of my observations concerning the things I have seen put forward by Christians is that their reasoning, very often, is hardly distinguishable from that of unbelievers. So here are some questions I think you should be asking so as to decide whether you go for Brexit or Bremain:-

  1. Which will lead to the greatest honour for our Lord Jesus? (God’s purpose is to honour His Son; see Phil. 2:9-11)
  2. Which will provide the best environment for the gospel to spread and go forward? (We should long for the spread of the Word of God; see 2 Thess. 3:1)
  3. Which will most engender peace among nations? (We are called tbe those who work for peace; see Matt 5:9)
  4. Which will most likely lead to the countries having laws which are in line with God’s law? (Righteousness exalts a nation; see Prov. 14:34)
  5. Which will enhance justice; that is the punishment of evil and the rewarding of good? (God approves of this; see Rom. 13:1-5)
  6. Which is most likely to facilitate the progress of false religions? (False religions destroy lives; see 2 Pet. 2:1-3)
  7. Which will lead us to be able to bless strangers? God loves to bless the stranger; see the book of Ruth and Luk. 10:29-37)
  8. Which will lead to our hospitals and schools being brought to collapse so that many are harmed as regards to their health and education? We should love our neighbour ( see Rom 13:10)
  9. Which will lead to many having the blessing of jobs, homes and food? We should have concern for others; see Matt. 5:43-48)
  10. Which will limit corruption and bribery? These always lead to harm (see Hos. 4:1-3) and are involve lying which is hated by God (see Ex. 20:16)
  11. Which will lead to a destabilising of Britain and other nations? The gospel prospers when there is stability and it can spread and so the great commission is fulfilled ; see Matt. 28:18-20)/
  12. Which will lead to most glory for God. the Lord is set to honour His Name; see 1 Cor 10:31)

For more details on all this please see here (from 33.57 in particular).

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